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Have we fallen into the trap of thinking crowds = success? by Malton Seadog User: Malton Seadog

Posted: 13/11/2017 at 13:55:44, 211 views.

We can all agree that the club feels a lot bigger this season than it has in the previous decade. Averaging over 1,000 at home when in the past it’s been in the 300s makes us feel like we are a giant in this league. Only South Shields are outdoing us, and it’s nearly a 700 fan drop to Glossop in third place in the attendance tables. But since when did good crowds = success?

Have a word with Leyton Orient in the Conference. Attendance table: 3rd, actual table: 19th.
Have a word with Darlington and FC United in the Conference North. Attendance table: 5th/3rd, actual table: 13th/19th.
Have a word with Stafford Rangers in the league above. Attendance table: 3rd, actual table: 12th.

Despite our recent slip-ups, we are doing better than last season. Last season we got 73 points from 42 games at 1.74pts per game. This season we’ve got 29 from 14 at 2.07. If we repeat the form of our opening 14 games twice again, we’ll get 14 more points than last season (87), and will be borderline 2nd position.

We have also reached the 4th Qualifying Round of the FA Cup. We were one result away from being on BBC Match of the Day live against MK Dons of League One. Read that sentence again. Last season, we lost at Tadcaster in the first game.

So yes, we are suddenly a big fish in a smallish pond, but as soon as we start admitting this or thinking it, that’s when trouble hits.

South Shields didn’t panic when Colwyn Bay beat them. They just got on with it. Likewise when we lost at Glossop, we beat Ramsbottom four days later at home.

Yes we’re struggling against the better sides, and yes, we might have to “settle" for the playoffs, but please remember that everything is new this season. For the board. For the manager. For the players. For the fans. New ground, new pitch, new expectations, new atmosphere. That isn’t easy.

Stick with us. If we finish 5th, so be it, we’ll have to do it the hard way, but let’s not be too hard on ourselves. We’re probably the 3rd or 4th best team in this league at the moment, and still looking to recuit players to strengthen. Two seasons ago we finished 20th and had a home crowd of 211. Let’s not run before we can walk eh? Let’s match last season’s playoff position as a minimum, and hopefully go one better. Anything else is a bonus (such as a record breaking cup run…).

Up the Boro.

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RE: Have we fallen into the trap of thinking crowds = success? by Revd Up

Posted: 13/11/2017 at 14:05:08, 201 views. In reply to 'Have we fallen into the trap of thinking crowds = success?'

Let common sense prevail,well said Malton.

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also malton by cool bird User: cool bird

Posted: 13/11/2017 at 14:48:37, 197 views. In reply to 'Have we fallen into the trap of thinking crowds = success?'

new squad as well,yes we got off to a flier which got us in a great position but the problem being that now its expected every game,every team hits a inconsistant patch,the proof of the pudding is how you deal with it
SK knows we need a couple more players,i`d be more concerned if he didn`t ,lets get behind the team and stop playing fifa.

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RE: also malton by Belfast Seadog

Posted: 13/11/2017 at 19:12:09, 185 views. In reply to 'also malton'

Crowds don’t automatically mean success but on the whole there is a correlation. Crowds = money and that generally has a big impact on success.

As a club we have had just two promotions in a decade despite having the higuest attendances in most of the leagues we’ve played in. I think we’ve underachieved as a club. Of course that’s not Kittrick’s fault but I don’t think fans expectations of progress up the leagues is unreasonable.

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But you are implying … by Anony Mouse

Posted: 13/11/2017 at 21:34:01, 189 views. In reply to 'RE: also malton'

That big crowds means more money. And at this level it doesn’t always correlate. Shaw Lane ?

We’re not that affluent when compared to other clubs. We had the 3rd or 4th highest wage bill last year, we came 3rd. Not an underachievement or overachievement. We get our money from different sources. And remember we spent 10 years in Brid, 20 miles from the fans and businesses that we need to support us.

On another note, some fans are (rightly) calling for ground improvements etc. We can only spend the money once.

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Spot on malton by Joe90

Posted: 13/11/2017 at 22:07:23, 158 views. In reply to 'But you are implying …'

Talking sense again.. I can’t believe the crap I read on here sometimes… give SK a break he maybe not Mr PR but am sure his doing his best for us… his got a great opportunity to do something with us after all we are a ‘big fish’ in a small pound so every team will have 10% more desire to prove a point against us…. I haven’t seen any team this year much better than us, it’s between us and Hyde… I’d like to know why paddy doesn’t want to play for us though..

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