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How long can… by Economic Depression Seadog

Posted: 28/6/2020 at 15:09:07, 271 views.

Clubs at our level continue to survive given the forecasts of worst economic depression for over three hundred years?

I mean, the unemployment rate is expected to soar into the high teens so fewer folk will have money to give to clubs like Boro. Also, if fans aren’t allowed in football grounds - potentially for a few years - sponsors are going to back out as it won’t be worth their while (will many of our sponsors even survive?) We won’t have any gate money or bar/fast food revenue either.

Is it possible we could just sign up unpaid local amateurs and ride out the economic depression by live streaming all our games?

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Re:How long can… by BoroNo7 User: BoroNo7

Posted: 28/6/2020 at 20:48:03, 289 views. In reply to 'How long can…'

You raise a question that many clubs and fans are asking themselves at the moment

It’s difficult to see how clubs outside the PL, who are dependent on gate receipts for a high %age of their income , can survive in their current form until the virus crisis is over - and that could be a long time yet

Football, rugby and cricket are all in the same boat - the loss of YCCC matches at North Marine Road has been a big hit to the cricket club

We might be in a better position than many clubs at our level as our fixed costs are probably lower than most - but as you rightly point out - worrying times

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RE: Re:How long can… by Burniston User: Burniston

Posted: 28/6/2020 at 22:48:08, 303 views. In reply to 'Re:How long can…'

Don’t want to say too much other than the world has gone mad and in many cases, unfortunately, true & correct science from top virology and Epidemiology Doctors is being ignored. Also the figures are vastly skewed and inflated and on top of that we already have a cure anyway.
Don’t mean to offend anyone it all depends on which ‘expert’ you chose to believe.


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RE: RE: Re:How long can… by dogtanian User: dogtanian

Posted: 2/7/2020 at 10:24:16, 224 views. In reply to 'RE: Re:How long can…'

so what’s “vastly skewed" and “inflated" about 40,000+ deaths in the UK?

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RE: RE: RE: Re:How long can… by Burniston User: Burniston

Posted: 3/7/2020 at 23:11:27, 223 views. In reply to 'RE: RE: Re:How long can…'

With respect my Dogtanian friend - Not just UK but generally around 90% are due to underlying and other causes. They died ‘WITH’ Covid not OF Covid. Doctors were instructed to mark everybody down to a Covid19 death with the very slightest of reasons. I’ve seen the letter. All deaths are regretted and extremely sad but I’m afraid we are being conned and lied to. The info comes from top virologists and Epidemiologists and 100’s of Doctors who are not given a voice. No more people have died this year than the last few years of flu.
The worrying thing now is the swab testing which doesn’t test for Covid19 but a vague reference to the Coronavirus family in general. Even the guy who invented the test says it is not a correct indicator. The only true test is for raised levels of antibodies. Apparently if you have had a common cold or a flu vaccine in the last few years you are likely to test positive with the swab test. So beware of numbers and also realise there is already a ‘cure’ if used early enough - already used by 1000’s successfully with 8 to 12 hours recovery.
I don’t tell you this to try to sound clever or argumentative, I say it to try to quell the fear propagated by main stream media like the BBC. I just suggest being sensible but not frightened.
I know this is not directly football related but my concern is the unjustified effect it has for when we can start football proper.
Given with greatest of respect and sorry for those who disagree.

Edited on 03/07/20 at 23:12:14
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RE: RE: RE: RE: Re:How long can… by dogtanian User: dogtanian

Posted: 5/7/2020 at 11:17:54, 170 views. In reply to 'RE: RE: RE: Re:How long can…'

Great! If something similar happens again or a second wave happens everyone is okay to just go about their normal ways, socialise, drink in bars, gather in thousands to go to football matches and other sporting events, etc etc as if nothing’s happening. Thanks for letting us all know for next time 👍

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any opinions on the moon landings? by original seadogx

Posted: 5/7/2020 at 14:48:02, 172 views. In reply to 'RE: RE: RE: Re:How long can…'

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RE: any opinions on the moon landings? by caslad User: caslad

Posted: 5/7/2020 at 15:05:59, 157 views. In reply to 'any opinions on the moon landings?'

Never happened -

Next . . .

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RE: RE: RE: RE: Re:How long can… by caslad User: caslad

Posted: 5/7/2020 at 15:04:41, 162 views. In reply to 'RE: RE: RE: Re:How long can…'

Unfortunately some don’t like to hear facts that don’t fit their beliefs - or what they have been told is the truth by agencies with an agenda to fulfill.

One subtle fact that is not deemed as newsworthy enough to be mentioned on our wonderful media is that there has NEVER been a vaccine found for ANY Coronavirus - and yet, apparently, one will be found within the next 12 - 24 months! Forgive me for being a tad cynical here . . .

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With all due respect…. by Cynic Al

Posted: 5/7/2020 at 16:15:50, 194 views. In reply to 'RE: RE: RE: Re:How long can…'

You are misinformed.

Excess deaths is the number you need to consider. There have been over 60000 more deaths than were to be expected from March-June this year. In early April, when the virus was at it’s peak, we had 113% (more than twice the number) more deaths than we should expect (5 year average) at this time of year. Of the excess deaths only 72% mention Covid-19.

The ‘with’ or ‘of’ Covid argument is moot. Look at the number of people who are dying in excess to what we expect at this time of year. Yes, some people who died had underlying health conditions, but lots of people do and can still expect to live for many more years. It’s been a tragedy of global proportions that has affected many local families. It is not a lie or a con.

Please stop repeating false information. The ONS estimates that 17,000 people have died annually in the last 5 years from flu. That is approximately 1/4 of the excess deaths in the last 4 months.

And these 60000 excess deaths are despite our best efforts in changing our behaviours. Imagine what would have happened if we had not altered our behaviours.

Yes, you are correct, no test is perfect. There are two types of error a test can have. The terms the medical professionals use are Specificity and Sensitivity.

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RE: With all due respect…. by dogtanian User: dogtanian

Posted: 5/7/2020 at 17:48:14, 203 views. In reply to 'With all due respect…. '

I’d “like" this post if it was Facebook or whatever

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You can add these as well by Old Git

Posted: 6/7/2020 at 10:41:18, 199 views. In reply to 'With all due respect…. '

to the numbers of dead.

UK faces 35,000 excess cancer deaths within 12 months, scientists warn
as the coronavirus crisis stymies cancer diagnoses and treatments,
a Health Data Research UK study suggests, with scientists estimating
up to two million routine breast, bowel and cervical cancer screenings may have already been missed.

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RE: You can add these as well by Armchairdog User: Armchairdog

Posted: 6/7/2020 at 19:11:17, 229 views. In reply to 'You can add these as well'

If the guy that wrote this article is right then maybe we are in a better place than we think:

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RE: RE: You can add these as well by Burniston User: Burniston

Posted: 10/7/2020 at 23:50:44, 184 views. In reply to 'RE: You can add these as well'

Thank you Armchair. A good article worth reading.


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